Im now playing with SLI.

[VW_Factor]

I must say. Minus the few little glitches Im not used too, such as the extra blanking of the monitor at times when starting Windows, or games. It really has matured since its beginnings when I played with it, and figured that it was just a gimick for higher benchmarks.

No. Today it really is a very viable option for those who want smoother gaming performance. Sometimes it seems as if things are a little "hitchy", however I think Im just being overly critical and its just my mind playing tricks on me.

The games I play are much smoother and at higher AF and AA levels, attaining even greater framerates than I was previously.

The only thing that maybe gets me, is that when I want to plugin to my HDTV, I need to disable the second card. I think this is limiting of the technology used, however we can all hope that someday this is fixed, or maybe we'll all get back into extremely powerful single card solutions, where this will again be possible.

[Darth Shaidar]

You're not hallucinating when you think things are "hitchy". That's a drawback of AFR rendering. I saw it with Crossfire on occasion as well.

[Uber_Tiny]

You're not hallucinating when you think things are "hitchy". That's a drawback of AFR rendering. I saw it with Crossfire on occasion as well.

Ok...and ATI's crossfire is any better?

Come on man no argument that ATI has lost the battle...again.
ATI drivers have been so shitty since 5.11 drivers. Now that's looking back a long time.

Some one somewhere else said something about how NVIDIA only makes drivers every so often. You wanna know why? It because they take the time to actually make them work. So there is no need to come out with a new driver every month like ATI does to fix previous issues that seem to break something else in their drivers.

ATI= CRAP

NVIDIA= The Way It's Meant To Be Played!

[Rollo]

Ok...and ATI's crossfire is any better?

Come on man no argument that ATI has lost the battle...again.
ATI drivers have been so shitty since 5.11 drivers. Now that's looking back a long time.

Some one somewhere else said something about how NVIDIA only makes drivers every so often. You wanna know why? It because they take the time to actually make them work. So there is no need to come out with a new driver every month like ATI does to fix previous issues that seem to break something else in their drivers.

ATI= CRAP

NVIDIA= The Way It's Meant To Be Played!

I don't know if I'd say ATI is "crap", they're just playing catch up, per usual. I imagine they'll come out with some

I must say. Minus the few little glitches Im not used too, such as the extra blanking of the monitor at times when starting Windows, or games. It really has matured since its beginnings when I played with it, and figured that it was just a gimick for higher benchmarks.

No. Today it really is a very viable option for those who want smoother gaming performance. Sometimes it seems as if things are a little "hitchy", however I think Im just being overly critical and its just my mind playing tricks on me.

The games I play are much smoother and at higher AF and AA levels, attaining even greater framerates than I was previously.

The only thing that maybe gets me, is that when I want to plugin to my HDTV, I need to disable the second card. I think this is limiting of the technology used, however we can all hope that someday this is fixed, or maybe we'll all get back into extremely powerful single card solutions, where this will again be possible.

I'm with you, I don't feel quite "right" without two cards in my box these days. It's just a better gaming experience- higher minimums, higher averages, higher settings- everything is better.

The pros of AFR far ouitweigh the few cons to me.

[Darth Shaidar]

Ok...and ATI's crossfire is any better?

Huh? Where did you get this from? I said I had the SAME PROBLEM with Crossfire.

Come on man no argument that ATI has lost the battle...again.
ATI drivers have been so shitty since 5.11 drivers. Now that's looking back a long time.

Do you *really* want to go there? I mean, REALLY? I'll refrain from elaborating until you respond ;)

Some one somewhere else said something about how NVIDIA only makes drivers every so often. You wanna know why? It because they take the time to actually make them work. So there is no need to come out with a new driver every month like ATI does to fix previous issues that seem to break something else in their drivers.

again, no comment (for now)

ATI= CRAP

NVIDIA= The Way It's Meant To Be Played!

Dude. Don't turn into Mike C. You're better than him.

[Uber_Tiny]

Huh? Where did you get this from? I said I had the SAME PROBLEM with Crossfire.

Yeah I duno how I made that argument out of your statement. I read the different when I posted my statement. But I still stand behind the fact that crossfire is shitty compared to NVIDIA's SLI.

Do you *really* want to go there? I mean, REALLY? I'll refrain from elaborating until you respond ;)

You can try and go there if you want. Since 5.11 drivers from ATI they have broke something somewhere every new driver. Then you got the nice CCC to deal with. My god that was horrid. I hated it and how it caused so many issues. That and in game issues. Low frame rates, bad lighting, and overall horrid experiance with ATI for as long as I was an ATI user.

Dude. Don't turn into Mike C. You're better than him.

I am not Mike C. and will never be like him or his site. So don't even go there man or your not gonna like the result.

[Darth Shaidar]

Yeah I duno how I made that argument out of your statement. I read the different when I posted my statement. But I still stand behind the fact that crossfire is shitty compared to NVIDIA's SLI.

Having worked extensively with both professionally, and gamed on both, I'd have to say that CF is not inherently inferior to SLI, it's just that SLI is the more mature technology, and NV has the better approach to letting users enable multi-card rendering in apps that the driver does not inherently support (e.g. application profiles).

You can try and go there if you want. Since 5.11 drivers from ATI they have broke something somewhere every new driver. Then you got the nice CCC to deal with. My god that was horrid. I hated it and how it caused so many issues. That and in game issues. Low frame rates, bad lighting, and overall horrid experiance with ATI for as long as I was an ATI user.

I'm not going to sit here and pretend like the 6 series Catalyst driver was trouble-free. I hope you'll recall that for a brief period this summer I was so fed-up with the attrocious 6 series Cat drivers out at the time and the fact that CrossFire didn't work for hardly any games that I was seriously contemplating switching to at least 7900 GTX SLI (was considering Quad for a bit).

That being said, I'm also not going to let things like "Low frame rates, bad lighting, and overall horrid experiance with ATI for as long as I was an ATI user." go by without calling you on it. I had my share of complaints about CCC and the Catalyst drivers too, but the problems were all resolved, and features were added, and performance was improved, and everything just plain got better with successive driver releases starting in the middle of 2006. The fact that you do not make the same claim, and keep referring to Catalyst 5.11 tells me you were either:
a) a previous-gen card user (i.e. x850 or older), in which case the 5.11 was the last driver ATI focused on improving performance of such cards
or
b)stop using ATI hardware/software after Catlalyst 5.11

In addition to that, I have been a happy ATI gamer (on and off) since early 2001 when I bought my first Radeon card (a Radeon 32MB DDR LE card with aftermarket cooler and o/c'd). I've had so many great gaming experiences with ATI hardware (most notably my kick-ass 9600 AIW Pro, X800 XL, and X1900 XTX/XTX CF cards), so my *extensive* ATI gaming experience does not corroborate your (so far unelaborated) experiences.

I am not Mike C. and will never be like him or his site. So don't even go there man or your not gonna like the result.

Let's not have a pissing match, k?

[Rollo]

Hey!
What's wrong with Mike C.?!?!!?!!?!
nVNews is a pretty nice site, I consider it the premier NVIDIA fansite. It is to NVIDIA what Rage is to ATI. (although Rage has shifted to become more of a tech site like AT of late)

Anyway, my few dealings with Mike C have been pleasant enough.

[VW_Factor]

I have never had dealings with him personally, however watching him deal with certain issues, Im hoping this place never goes in that direction.

[Darth Shaidar]

Hey!
What's wrong with Mike C.?!?!!?!!?!
nVNews is a pretty nice site, I consider it the premier NVIDIA fansite. It is to NVIDIA what Rage is to ATI. (although Rage has shifted to become more of a tech site like AT of late)

Anyway, my few dealings with Mike C have been pleasant enough.

I was banned from NVnews after 5 posts.

I violated no rules in my posts.

[Uber_Tiny]

Lets drop the Mike C. thing please!!

Back on track or the thread gets closed.

K Thanks!

[ChrisRay]

The Latency issues with AFR can be avoided if you keep your frame rates above 30 on AVG, It shouldnt be a problem. If it drops below 20 it can be a real problem and make for some jerky graphics . But you have other options. SLIAA, and Split Frame Rendering as well.

Chris